Clonetroopers and Stormtroopers

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Post by freefly » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:00 pm

e3lipse wrote: Stormtroopers consist of citizens of planets under control by the Empire.
Theres no link i think
The only link is the armour's evolution
Actually they are clones of Imperial citizens who are between the ages of 18 - 30 and who scored in the top 5th percentile on their GAR physical exams

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Post by cardz_house » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:51 pm

really enjoyed it!!! ha! nice one!

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Re: Clonetroopers and Stormtroopers

Post by Impulse » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:14 pm

danchia wrote:OK.... I'm missing something here ....

How did the Clonetroopers in EPII and III become the Stormtroopers EP IV through VI ?

Was it explained in EPIII ?

And why are the Stormtroopers called Stormtroopers ?
Yo! By now i shall give you the correct answer to it!!!
The biggest clue lies on the game Battlefront II and minor stuff on Insider #84.


It all began with our notorious/famous 501st Division/501st Legion/Tactical Ops Trooper/Vader's Fist/Blue clones/ whatever-name-u-call-it clones.

When Anakin Skywalker succumbed to the dark side and swore loyalty to Darth Sidious, the newly arisen Emperor assigned his apprentice the best the galaxy had to offer. For Vader's inaugural mission to raze the Jedi Temple, the Emperor provided him with a legion of elite clone troopers. Their distinctive blue-marked armor set them apart from the other ranks. Their crack marksmanship and coordinated team maneuvers allowed them to outflank the Jedi trapped in the Temple, and mercilessly gun them down. Though these clone troopers emerged from the smoldering Temple with their share of casualties -- some Jedi proved quite difficult to kill -- they were nonetheless successful in their mission.

The 501st began just as any of the other initial clone units that blazed across the rocky deserts of Geonosis in the first historic battle of the Clone Wars. They seemed identical to the other clones that infiltrated the Separatist stronghold and pushed the Confederacy forces off-planet. Nonetheless, the Supreme Chancellor himself took special interest in the success record of the 501st.

Like the red-emblazoned soldiers that made up the ranks of Palpatine's elite shock troopers, the 501st underwent training and conditioning not on distant Kamino, but in a top-secret facility on Coruscant known only to select members of Palpatine's command staff. It was shortly after the Battle of Jabiim, when the threat to Coruscant seemed all the more real, that the 501st were based out of the capital. From this headquarters, some members of the Legion saw transfer to other units, where according to asset management charts they were seemingly absorbed. In other records more secure and more private, they remained carefully tracked as members of the 501st to one day return to Coruscant for special assignment.

n the final days of the Clone Wars, the 501st were constantly on the move, shuttled from battlefront to battlefront. The Legion was split into special mission groups, often to supplement other clone missions. In same cases, they operated independent of the command structure already in place. There were 501st troopers protecting the skies over Coruscant during General Grievous' bold strike against the capital. Others provided support to clone units on worlds such as Felucia, Mygeeto, Utapau and Kashyyyk. Those stationed on Coruscant were put under the command of Darth Vader, Palpatine's new enforcer, and sent on the grim mission to attack the Jedi Temple.

Many of the early missions of the 501st remained classified for decades. Only recently have datapad journals of some of its members come to light, detailing some of their most arduous assignments.

With the rise of the New Order, there were some worlds that objected to the sweeping policy changes enacted by Palpatine. These worlds were soon brought in line. The 501st transitioned from clone trooper ranks to stormtrooper ranks as the Empire consolidated its power.

The 501st were dispatched to Naboo, to eliminate Queen Apailana and her opposition to the Empire's directives. It was the first time the 501st was called upon to "adjust" a planet's government, but it wouldn't be the last. Within months, the 501st gained a well-deserved reputation as "Vader's Fist."

They traveled to Mustafar, to capture Gizor Dellso, a rogue Geonosian droid engineer who had erected his own battle droid factory on the fiery world. Most alarming, the clones of the 501st had to put down a clone uprising on Kamino, as an aberrant batch of mutinous troopers were unleashed by treasonous Kaminoans. For this assignment, they were led by Boba Fett, a mercenary hired by Darth Vader for his intimate knowledge of the cloning environments.

Later, the 501st were assigned with protecting the Death Star as it neared completion. A host of would-be saboteurs and spies were captured by the Empire, and sent to languish in the Death Star's prison facilities. An embarrassing prison break by these Rebels inmates had to be quashed by the 501st.

When the Death Star plans were stolen by Rebel spies, the 501st were dispatched on missions to track down the valuable technical readouts. Such reassignment saved the ranks from destruction when the Death Star's main reactor exploded at the climax of the Battle of Yavin.

The 501st continued to serve Darth Vader throughout the Galactic Civil War, though after the Battle of Endor, their ranks were broken and the unit dissolved as feuding Imperial warlords carved up territory and materiel in their bids to become the next Emperor.

Knowing the value of symbols, it was Grand Admiral Thrawn who resurrected the designation 501st for the stormtrooper units protecting the Empire of the Hand. By this time, any original clones from the 501st's Civil War era were long past fighting age. This later unit was made up of birth-born soldiers, with diverse backgrounds and histories -- including non-human members.



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From #84...
The complete speech by Emperor Palpatine. I cut out the important section only. the rest you have to purchase and read it yourself, copyright laws.
"... ...The clone trooper, now proudly wearing the name of Imperial stormtroopers, have tackled the danegrous work of fighting our enemies on the front lines. Many have died in their devotion to the Empire. Imperial citizens would do well to remember their example.
... ..."




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Also from #84.
|||||The New Empire: How can You Help?|||||
Become A Clone Donor
blah blah blah
Join The Military
Blah blah blah
etc...


Credits: http://www.starwars.com/databank/organi ... index.html
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Post by freefly » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:05 pm

commander faie wrote:They traveled to Mustafar, to capture Gizor Dellso, a rogue Geonosian droid engineer who had erected his own battle droid factory on the fiery world. Most alarming, the clones of the 501st had to put down a clone uprising on Kamino, as an aberrant batch of mutinous troopers were unleashed by treasonous Kaminoans. For this assignment, they were led by Boba Fett, a mercenary hired by Darth Vader for his intimate knowledge of the cloning environments.
i read some forum palpatine stopped ordering clones frm the kaminoans after that incident. any truth to that?

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Post by Impulse » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:50 pm

freefly wrote:
commander faie wrote:They traveled to Mustafar, to capture Gizor Dellso, a rogue Geonosian droid engineer who had erected his own battle droid factory on the fiery world. Most alarming, the clones of the 501st had to put down a clone uprising on Kamino, as an aberrant batch of mutinous troopers were unleashed by treasonous Kaminoans. For this assignment, they were led by Boba Fett, a mercenary hired by Darth Vader for his intimate knowledge of the cloning environments.
i read some forum palpatine stopped ordering clones frm the kaminoans after that incident. any truth to that?
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I think the kaminoans dislike the rule on the galactic empire. So they build freedom fighters (exactly AOTC clone troopers) and wanted to rebel. That's when 501st Division a.k.a. new stormtroopers go into action and stop the freedom fighters. Palpatine didnt stop the order, i think the kaminoans stop it first.
Gotta play Battlefront II, i don't have the game, don't know the details on that.
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Post by e3lipse » Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:51 pm

battlefront 2 is a little slow moving in terms of storyline,but it's really nice to play through the story of the evolution
After all these years, I still love Clones
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Post by Impulse » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:14 pm

e3lipse wrote:battlefront 2 is a little slow moving in terms of storyline,but it's really nice to play through the story of the evolution
Have you reach this stage where the kamino build freedom fighters and your 501st become stormies yet?
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Post by e3lipse » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:07 am

I stopped playing story line and just play quick games now.
After all these years, I still love Clones
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Post by Impulse » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:09 pm

aiya wasted ah.
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Post by e3lipse » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:18 am

As i said. Very draggy
After all these years, I still love Clones
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Post by Impulse » Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:01 pm

sian lor. now no time to play. Good for you now still can play. Argh JC life sometimes so stressed.

BTW danchia got read and understand the evolutions clone to storm???
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Clone Trooper evolution

Post by jemDconqueror » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:43 pm

Hey Dan(can i call you dat?) :, abt your questions about clonetroopers to stormtroopers, i think i hav the answer...the plastroid armour designs were changed. As seen in ep3, the armour had evolved from ep2...so armour designers must hav refined the clone trooper armour durin the 19 yrs gap between 3 and 4. Hope i helped u here!!!
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Post by e3lipse » Sat Apr 08, 2006 3:45 pm

I think EP2 and 3 were the same armour except for the helmet

Where did you get that from?
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Post by Impulse » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:20 pm

Phase II clone armour is lighter, but looks the same.

Phase II armour is quickly changed to Stormtrooper armour after Episode III, the period in the game Battlefront II.
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Post by jemDconqueror » Thu May 25, 2006 4:57 pm

Yar, i tink so...Except for the black body suit and flight glove,and helmet, i tink the main design remains the same.
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